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Apocalypse Now: Best Vietnam Flick Ever

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Gunm, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. Gunm

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    Apocalypse Now: Best Vietnam Flick Ever

    Discussion started by Gunm - Sep 30, 2003

    Way better than platoon. if you took the entire online community of 12 OZ Prophet, gave'em guns and set them down in the jungle, you'd have Colonol Kurtz's headquarters for the new millenium.

    What an excellent movie, I just picked up the Redux edition and what an excellent, excellent movie

    Top Scenes
    1.Surfing during the middle of a massive firefight
    2.The napalm drop
    3.The vietnamese chick who blows up the helicopter and afterwards Kilgore says "holy christ, she's a sap! i'm gonna get that dink bitch!" after which said girl along with two innocent old folks are mown down without mercy.
    4.Captain Willard Toking opium at the french plantation
    5.Lance dropping acid and loighting off smoke flares
    6.The loked out black dude with the bone necklace and tiger striped grenade launcher taking out the wounded V.C. in the dark

    Awww ahit, just about every scene in that movie is dope

    "Terminate, with extreme prejudice."
    "Never get out of the boat."

    Post your fav Apocalypse Now quotes, pictures and scenes
     
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    crave - Replied Sep 30, 2003

    i wouldn't call it the best, but it certainly ranks.
     
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    Big Bruno - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    Ever!
     
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    its tight son.
     
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    nomadawhat - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    this is my favorite vietnam movie too. haven't seen the redux version yet. that one scene in the hotel room where he breaks the mirror.. he was really actually wasted in that scene and just went off... crazy shit, crazy movie.
     
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    KaBar2 - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    Apocalypse Now ruled in 1977

    But it had massive problems with fantasy bullshit. All that hocus-pocus bullshit with the white-face painted tribe SUCKED A BIG ONE. Marlon Brando supposedly turned in a great performance. I don't know what yardstick they used, but I thought it blew. Dennis Hopper is one of my favorite actors, but I thought he blew one too. In fact, the entire wierd-ass tribal scene sucked. They lost me as soon as they started depicting the forward fire base as totally out of control, and without leadership. Such a depiction of Vietnam combat troops is MORALLY DISHONEST and says a shitload more about the liberal bias of the writer, director and principal actors than it does about Vietnam, the Army or even the antiwar movement.

    I HATED the war in Vietnam. I did everything I could to oppose U.S. involvement in that war, and refused to serve in any capacity within the U.S. military during Vietnam.

    But Apocalypse Now! sends a morally dishonest message about the men who served there, their commitment to the war, the way the war was conducted, and their success in battle. If you want to see an honest depiction, go see "We Were Soldiers." That is a HISTORICALLY ACCURATE and morally true movie. It was the first time that U.S. troops faced North Vietnamese regulars in battle. The 7th Cavalry was grossly outnumbered, and they fought heroically. It is a much truer treatment of the Vietnam War. The sacrifice of those young Air Cav troopers was unnecessary and unwarranted, but they could not retreat without being massacred. The only way they could get out was to win the battle. The scene between the (real) news photographer, Joe, and the (real) commander is a much, much, much better representation of the Vietnam War than anything in Apocalypse Now!

    "Full Metal Jacket" is even a much more morally honest movie about Vietnam than was Apocalypse Now!, and I thought FMJ had serious problems too.

    If you want to see a morally accurate movie about the Vietnam anti-war resistance, go see "Coming Home" with Jane Fonda ("I ain't Fonda Hanoi Jane",) Bruce Dern and Jon Voigt (1978.) Or better yet, that old TV special, "Katherine," about the Weatherman Underground Organization (also starring Fonda, if memory serves.) (Edit 10/02: nope, Sissy Spacek played Katherine.) Best of all, watch old newsfilm of the street battles between the demonstrators and the cops. ("The Whole World is Watching!") Or maybe "Born on the Fourth of July" with Tom Cruise. I actually met Ron Kovic in California in 1971, and he was very much the way he is depicted in that movie, full of self pity and bitterness. Fortunately, he got better, later.
     
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    nomadawhat - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    it is just a movie... so it will glorify and lie for entertainment value and reflect creative and personal values of the director, writer, etc....
     
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    True

    That's why American Hollywood films SUCK A BIG DICK. The only American films worth my time are indies. I'd throw my TV away if it weren't for the Sundance channel.
     
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    nomadawhat - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    but this film was made in 1979, when the film industry was not a complete sell out... i thought it was quite an interesting twist on the same ol' same ol' cliche war film, realistic or a bit of a strech.
     
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    Gunm - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    Straight up. Apocalypse Now is and will always be the definitive movie about vietnam. Everyone involved in that movie went all out on the acting and it's a testimony to great filmaking. If you ever have the time, rent "Hearts of Darkness" which is a fascinating documentary about the making of the film.

    "But Apocalypse Now! sends a morally dishonest message about the men who served there, their commitment to the war, the way the war was conducted, and their success in battle. "

    Morally dishonest? Yeah, I guess dumping jellied gasoline on villages, the slaughter at My Lai, Saigons police chief executing a vietcong soldier on live television, U.S. troops getting stoned and fucked up on patrol.....yeah, that real committment, a real solid way to conduct a war. mmm hmmm.

    If anything, Apocalypse Now accurately depicted the effects of war in a foreign land on troops used to apple pie and a stand up fight. Maybe a little far-fetched but do you really expect us to believe
    that U.S. troops upheld a moral standard over there especially when some of them hadn't been out of the jungle for months at a time?

    We Were Soldiers- right in the garbage
    Apocalypse now- on the mantle next to the petrified ear necklace
     
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    Gunm - Replied Oct 1, 2003

    Re: True

    Then go back to Russia if you love it so much. mm,sundance channel...suitable for extracting state secrets from foriegn diplomats in unmarked basements in nondescript buildings. ministry of love anyone?
     
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    Classic shit
     
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    That movie warped my brain in ways i'll never fully understand.
     
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    Remember, when Kabar says that accurate depictions of war show Americans fighting heroically, then it must be true.
     
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    Yeah I`m with Kabar, "Full Metal Jacket"..
     
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