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Another casualty

Discussion in 'Third Rail' started by bobobi11, Dec 19, 2001.

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  1. bobobi11

    bobobi11 Elite Member

    Joined: Dec 15, 2000 Messages: 2,807 Likes Received: 0
    Watch your backs boys and girls. This does not bode well for the Portland scene.

    Acid-based graffiti net vandal prison



    *******, the 24-year-old who defaced numerous Southeast Portland businesses with acid-based graffiti this summer, was sentenced to two years in prison and must pay his victims more than $14,000 in restitution, a Multnomah County judge ruled Friday.

    Deputy District Attorney MacDaniel Reynolds said ****** is the first graffiti vandal he's aware of sentenced under Oregon's repeat property offender law, which established prison sentences of 13 or 19 months for offenders with certain prior convictions.

    ******, who has six prior felony criminal mischief convictions, pleaded guilty to six felony counts of first-degree criminal mischief Dec. 6 in connection with the Aug. 15-16 graffiti spree on Southeast Belmont Street and other Portland graffiti incidents. In exchange, the remaining counts of an 11-count indictment were dismissed.

    Reynolds and ******* defense lawyer, Jason Steen, worked out the sentencing deal in advance, which Circuit Judge Ellen Rosenblum approved with one addition.

    After an apologetic ****** referred to his graffiti activities as an "addiction" on which he expended about 75 percent of his energy, Rosenblum said it was appropriate that he undergo mental health evaluation and treatment, if recommended by a professional.

    "I'm willing to accept the possibility that it's not just plain criminal behavior," she said -- as long as ******* was willing to address any psychological or emotional problems that may have contributed to his behavior.

    But Rosenblum also admonished the defendant for his "blatant disregard for the property interests of others," ordering him to begin making a minimum of $70 per month restitution payments within 60 days of his release from prison. She also imposed 48 months of probation.

    As a condition of probation, ****** cannot possess graffiti implements, cannot associate with other graffiti vandals and must be in school or working full time.

    ******* can apply to the state's boot-camp program to reduce the length of his prison time, which Reynolds didn't oppose. But Reynolds said prison was appropriate.

    "This defendant has been repeatedly involved in this type of criminal activity," he said, "and he hasn't seemed to learn his lesson in the past."
  2. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    id hardly call that a casualty. dude had 6 prior felonies, before these six... id call that being sloppy as fuck. etch bath is bad news and cheap fame...
  3. TheStupidToy

    TheStupidToy Junior Member

    Joined: Nov 26, 2001 Messages: 205 Likes Received: 0
    Psychiatric help??? ah ha ha...... the guy wanted fame, and was'nt careful in the process...... I think if he has defaced all that property and been caught 7 times now..... he should get the death penalty, dont you think Mr. Bush???
  4. bobobi11

    bobobi11 Elite Member

    Joined: Dec 15, 2000 Messages: 2,807 Likes Received: 0
    I never said he was the smartest guy, I am just pointing out that sentences are getting stiffer and the cops are getting more aggressive.
  5. THE LAW

    THE LAW Guest

    THE LAW has to disagree here. (let it be known that THE LAW has no idea who the article is about)

    sometimes you get busted. especially if you do risky stuff, like streetbombing, and ESPECIALLY if you do a lot of it. it's not really that great of an accomplishment to "not get busted" if you don't paint a lot. in fact, it's about the easiest thing in the world.

    six fels definitely sucks, but THE LAW gives him credit for sticking with something he loves even in the face of enormous risk. it may not be the choice that most of us would make, but at least he's putting some work into the culture. that's admirable in THE LAW's eyes.

    as far as etchbath being cheap fame, if you live in a city with a hard buff. new tools are needed to stay up. there's no use going out bombing straight for a month only to have everything you've done gone within the week after you take a break.

  6. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    I agree wth THE LAW on this one. I mean a majority of kids get busted once writing at school and quit. You remember reading threads on "Got caught now what?". Besides just because he had 6-7 felonies doesent mean he got busted 6-7 different times. Just like this time he's getting numerous felonies to his record.
    Remember kids plead insanity.
    I remember when Chaka out here in LA pulled the mental card. It worked.
  7. defyone

    defyone Guest

    thats wack that the court is considering his love for graff as a mental illness... its about fucking art and fame.. that would be in sane to get sent to the loony bin for graf. oh well etch bath rocks, and for every one out there be smart about street boming, and make sure that no one who looks like they are are around. also you never know where a nark could be, they are out there so just becareful and watch your self.... too many run ins with the cops, and they will catch on to you and catch up to you. just keep it safe.. and i dont consider this a causalty even though it is rather bogus of the court. JUST SPLASH THEM WITH THE ETCH BATH.
  8. SteelUnion25

    SteelUnion25 New Jack

    Joined: Dec 4, 2000 Messages: 8 Likes Received: 0
    That comment about etch bath being cheap fame is ridiculous. You may think etch bath is bad news but I think posting this article on 12oz is good news. Maybe people that have no business using etch bath will stop now.
  9. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

    Joined: Oct 7, 2001 Messages: 2,955 Likes Received: 1
    your ignorant.

    AREANKAY Senior Member

    Joined: Oct 9, 2001 Messages: 1,183 Likes Received: 39
    no cause not all the writters in the world give a fuck about graffit being safe or how much destruction it cause for the shit they did it too and the people that have that i dont fucking care about anyone ill write with whatever and where ever i want too mentality are the ones that have the most ups
  11. Rodney Trotter

    Rodney Trotter Senior Member

    Joined: Aug 23, 2001 Messages: 1,683 Likes Received: 1
    $14000 @ $70 per month? That's about 16.5 years worth of repayments. Fuck.


    huh, dude comes off sloppy if you ask me....
  13. bobobi11

    bobobi11 Elite Member

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    Minimum of $70 per month.
  14. seeking

    seeking Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 25, 2000 Messages: 32,277 Likes Received: 235
    ive been busted 3 times, but that was over the course of 8 years. and i pretty lucky on all of them. to get 6 felonies, you gotta get pinned with alot of shit. i definitly give dude props for sticking with it, but at what cost man? graff is as central to my life music, girls or anything else i do, but if it was causing me that much hassle and time in jail, man i might have to rethink my priorities. some people just cant pull shit off. not everyone has the ability to be a professional shop lifter ya know, graff is the same way.

    and as far as my cheap fame comment. since etch is still somewhat a novelty, you can get some etch bath, walk through a downtown area, do ten big window tags, and immediatly get noticed and have your name in everyones mouth. that can be the only shit you've ever done, but all of a sudden, everyone knows your name. thats just kind of weak to me. i dont care if people use it, but use it for the right reasons ya know...
  15. optimo

    optimo Guest

    if youve ever actually gone out hittin stuff before youd know that it IS an addictive thing. personally i know someone whos been busted twice in 6 months and still does it. one time, he had no where to go, another cops came with a warrant and searched his house. thats much respect in my book, still bombing while in a rack of trouble as it is.
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