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American Culture & European Hypocricy

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by imported_Tesseract, Dec 21, 2002.

  1. I bet you have all realised that theres an antiamericanism lately...with the war, politics in general, the hatred towards hollywood lame ass films, commerciality in everything, huge pop stars and all that hussle about them...
    I share those ideas in many things but still i'm being carefull on how to express that...the point is that if you lived somewhere else and you saw what comes from america as culture you'd find (for the most part):

    *Music:
    -Thug niggers that talk about their self, beef and bitches 24/7
    -Dumb 17 year old girls that carry a 'rape me' innocence as part of their profile
    boy/girl bands that i wont even comment

    *Films:

    -Patriotic crapola awesomely filmed that say how cool it is to fight wars you dont know shit about.

    -Lame ass comedies with great actors making clowns of their self for the money

    -Drama, drama, drama

    Now, i know you're starting to get pissed already so its time for a clarification. Thats NOT all there is, i'm talking about what is massivly exported!
    So, at the same time, europeans are suposed to have higher standards, and they do at some cases...and they judge the 'american way' with an iron tongue...still all the kids watch american films, all the kids talk about britney's boobs and theres a bunch of fubu wearing wiggers everywhere....

    If watching patriotic films is lame, watching patriotic films that dont concern your country is ridiculous...

    If you're a wannabe thug, you might aswell dress and talk like thugs dress in your own country...

    What i'm really trying to say is that i think the pop culture does great damage to both....
    Are your exports bad,yet profitable, representation for the states?
    cause they sure are bad influence for europe.

    I just dont get that, all your good film directors and actors are more respected in europe than in their own country, ex. Jim Jarmuch, woody allen, johnny depp...i've read a bunch of interviews from american filmakers, actors and musicians where they thank the journalist for not asking them about their personal life and the chicks they fuck, but about their work. One would expect that the majority of european kids are more 'cultural' but they're not...they watch jackass and they'd love to have a mall to act like retards...

    The reason i made this post is to underline that i think both euros and americans have a fake impression about eachother, based on media for the biggest part, if you think that you are better than Bush politics, better than britney's tits, more interesting than american pie...and more educated than nelly, be sure that you're not represented right.

    If you think americans are dumb cocky retards be sure that you dont know much.

    Another thing is that although european filmakers are known for more quality shit, after 1 or 2 movies they sign for Hollywood and totally destroy their style by adding a bunch of stereotype scenes, obligated by the contract they signed for money, drugs and bitches....i find all that stuff ironical, pretentious and ridiculous from both sides...comments?
     
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    Haha. Classic.
     
  3. dukeofyork

    dukeofyork Senior Member

    Joined: Nov 9, 2000 Messages: 1,589 Likes Received: 1
    good to see we are having a positive influence around the world..

    i simplify it all to this:


    its like my friend james...he can tell the dumbest joke in the world (like making the most retarded music, or shitty movies) but he can crack a grin at the end of the joke that makes everyone laugh. so the question is, who really is the idiot here? the one making the joke (or the song or music) or the sucker whos laughing (the ones buying into this shit)?


    hope i didnt lose any of you too bad on that..
     
  4. your example isnt the best but good enough for the answer: BOTH
     
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  6. jah

    jah Elite Member

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    i know exactly what youre saying. i think europeans easily have just as much, if not more arrogance in proportion to the americans. but a lot of people around the world that ive met have a lot better insights on the shit thats going on in the world than a lot of americans youll talk to. but its true, all the shit that other countries see about america are shows like jerry springer, ricky lake (all those type shows), late night talk shows, game shows, the news, shitcoms, dramas, all the shitty chart music, etc..... basically they see the worst of it for the most part. but all that shit influences everywhere. im now too stoned to think of anything else to say.....
     
  7. To bad cause it was going good:dazed:
    anyway, i agree non americans have greater knowledge on just how the rest of the world affects them, therefore they care to know...as far as shows go, i agree but at the same time believe that 99% of US TV sucks...thats exactly the problem, i believe that americans are better than their television, still they only distribute shit like that. And i also believe euros have a better taste than watching that shit, but they keep on watching...weird, weird, weird....Majorities are known for being controled and manipulated in general, what bugs me the most is that 'ghost dog' was first played in europe and then in the states and, in europe, american pie was played in more theaters than it....
     
  8. bodice_ripper

    bodice_ripper Elite Member

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    I hate to burst your bubble guys, but this isn't a recent thing at all.

    I was in college a few weeks ago, and my lecturer started giving me shit about being american

    L: what's the difference between America and yoghurt

    bodice: hmm?

    L: a yoghurt can grow its own culture

    bodice: ah yes, but that culture wouldn't rampage across europe destroying native traditions in its wake, would it?




    Being an american ex-pat right now sucks. You find yourself saying "I'm american, I'm sorry. No, I didn't vote for bush, no I don't agree with american foreign policy. Yes, I know america has hundred of times more Weapons Of Mass Destruction than Iraq etc etc etc " a great deal
     
  9. hahaha, funny dialogue there...

    i know the story is old, i decided to start that thread here, now, cause i sense that antiamericanism is starting to kick off in the states massivly aswell...anyway another example, take the brits, they blame americans for everything and at the same time snob out the EU and be 'Americas greatest friend' uh...
     
  10. dukeofyork

    dukeofyork Senior Member

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    theres nothing wrong with some of the sitcoms (or cartoons even though they werent mentioned). all the rest of the shit is just there so you can appreciate what is good. you cant know whats good if there isnt something to be considered bad, right?


    fuck talk shows like springer and ricky...although they can be funny sometimes, they are for the simple minded fucks out there. dramas....like soaps....blah....barf.

    shitty chart music....depends on who you are talking about. i can admit i like some shitty music, but NO NELLY.
     
  11. jah

    jah Elite Member

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    well of course theres a few good shows but i have to agree with tessereact that about 99% of the shit on tv is a waste of time. its just retarded....



    and of course some music on the charts is good too. im just saying in general. there are a lot of other shitty influences like the fast food, mass consumerism, k i blanked out again but theres plenty of influences on other countries like britain and australia and whatnot...politcal and such.
     
  12. Del

    Del Junior Member

    Joined: Sep 13, 2002 Messages: 106 Likes Received: 0
    I hear ya fellas

    America condones the over sateration of "dumb" media. They always have. It keeps the masses paralized with fear, consumerism, and stupidity. In turn all us free thinkers look like extremest radical wackos. We look like the crazy ones and are ignored by the masses. Thus keeping the majority of Americans poor, stupid, locked-up,....or dead. In the mean time the political fat cats with short arms and deep pockets gain more power an get richer. And the culture is lost.
    Most other countries are not like that. Though they may aspire to be so, they're just not capable of such curruption yet. It's not that I hate America, just frustrated with "them" saying one thing and doing another. You must lead by example. The example that's being set for future generations in this country is not pretty. Thats a shame.
     
  13. grandmaster

    grandmaster Member

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    FLUFFER IS a silly person

    I think that Americas great.But a lot of you act like idiots about things.You need to relax and stop showing off.

    You are like the hyperactive rich violent kid at the school disco that wont stop shouting orders.

    But all in all I think you have given the rest of the world a lot of things as well.Like

    Graffiti
    Hamburgers
    Coca Cola
    Hip hop
    talk shows

    all of these things make my life worth living so i should shut up.
     
  14. Kr430n5_666

    Kr430n5_666 Banned

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  15. podrido

    podrido Veteran Member

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    what i cant stand is that everyone in the world other than most tribal cultures like to clasify everyone in one country as opposed to seeing the fact that more than one group of individuals lives there.

    in every country in the fucking world there are dumb fucks there will always be dumb fucks and nothing can be done to prevent that.

    sure america is a gay country that lives off commercialism and the exploitation of peoples lives and cultures, and thats wrong.

    but that doesnt make all of us ignorant fucks even tho the number of ignorance is alot more than usual.

    now that i've said that

    you are all fags, shut the fuck up and live on with your lives accepting others w/o makin opinions just cuz they're europen, american, canadian, blah blah blah


    fags
     
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