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all americans fingerprinted and photographed on entry to brazil.

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by wiseguy, Jan 4, 2004.

  1. wiseguy

    wiseguy Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 1, 2002 Messages: 2,543 Likes Received: 1
    U.S. Arrivals Fingerprinted in Brazil
    On Judge's Order, Americans Get Same Scrutiny Bush Sought for Brazilians

    By Jon Jeter
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Sunday, January 4, 2004; Page A14

    SAO PAULO, Brazil, Jan. 3 -- Gerald Lewis emerged from the international airport on Saturday curiously looking at his hands. "My first time being fingerprinted," said Lewis, 40, an electronics salesman from Houston. "You don't expect that kind of thing to happen when you step off a plane in Brazil. Maybe Eastern Europe during the Cold War."

    A judge in Latin America's largest country last week ordered federal police to begin photographing and fingerprinting all American travelers when they arrive at Brazil's airports.

    Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva's ruling followed an announcement by the Bush administration last month that it would introduce similar measures Monday for people arriving in the United States from a number of countries, including Brazil. The measure is intended to identify people who have violated immigration controls, have a criminal record or are known members of what U.S. intelligence agencies consider to be terrorist organizations.

    Officials at the Department of Homeland Security said at least two of the 19 hijackers in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States might have been identified and detained if such a system had been in place at the time.

    In his ruling last week, da Silva delivered a withering attack on the new U.S. measure and said Brazil must implement the same policy to protect the integrity and dignity of Brazilians traveling to the United States.

    "I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," da Silva said.

    Brazil's new security measures are scheduled to begin nationwide on Monday. But federal police officers in Sao Paulo -- Brazil's most populous city and a major gateway into and out of the country -- have already begun fingerprinting and photographing American travelers. By Saturday morning, police had registered about 130 Americans and were expected to register 1,300 to 1,800 per day as they arrive in the country, according to tourism officials.

    A U.S. Consulate official in Sao Paulo said there had been few complaints. "It's been real quiet," the official said on the condition of anonymity.

    None of the Americans interviewed on Saturday seemed to consider the process more than mildly irritating.

    "You have to expect delays anytime you travel anywhere in the world these days," said Eric Wesson, 24, of Michigan, who arrived Saturday and said he planned to spend the next six months hiking around the continent.

    "They were polite about it, and I can understand their point," he said. "If we're going to treat them like criminals when they visit our country, they are going to make sure we feel the same way. It's kind of like a humiliation war rather than a trade war."

    The mayor of Rio de Janeiro, the country's favorite tourist destination, criticized da Silva's decision. Increasing numbers of tourists from the United States and elsewhere begin arriving in Brazil at this time of year, preparing for the country's pre-Lenten carnival celebration.

    "This is a disastrous move," said the mayor, Cesar Maia. "We're right in the middle of summer. I consider this a stupid retaliation that will not bring any benefit to the country."

    Da Silva, however, said he did not consider his court order retaliatory but rather "a question of international rights."

    Vivian Keller, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Consulate, said that the office was monitoring the situation but that U.S. diplomatic officials recognized that "countries have the sovereign right to determine the entry requirements of foreign nationals."
  2. Telo

    Telo Elite Member

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  3. metallix

    metallix Elite Member

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  4. GamblersGrin

    GamblersGrin Elite Member

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    a taste of the old medicine
  5. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra Dirty Dozen Crew

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    dude it might be a bit of an inconvenience, but settle down mr brazilian guy. they're fingerprinting you, not gassing you
  6. T.T Boy

    T.T Boy Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: May 18, 2001 Messages: 21,803 Likes Received: 41
    good job brasil, on doing something back to the yanks that they figured they could get away with. im seriously happy for brasil doing this.

  7. suburbian bum

    suburbian bum 12oz Loyalist

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 14,673 Likes Received: 3
    Hmm, as an American I think that they are cool for doing that. It would be funny if America got mad because of that.
  8. oneeightyone

    oneeightyone Senior Member

    Joined: May 23, 2003 Messages: 1,289 Likes Received: 0
    About damn, time, i am really happy about this, if america does say something, they can eat a dick, they do that shit as well...and that silva guy is off his fucking rocker.
  9. wiseguy

    wiseguy Elite Member

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  10. the_gooch

    the_gooch 12oz Loyalist

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    good move by brazil! im sure plenty of my fellow US citizens will piss and moan because of this (mainly the travelers, cause the rest of the US don't give a fuck if it doesn't directly effect them).

    it's funny how everyone gets all pissy about the long lines at our own airports, and the searching of baggage, and everything else. i love how people aren't able to grasp the fact that this is the way it is, you wanna fly safe, you gotta deal with some shit.

    But i dont think what the bush adm. is doing, is right. they are paving the way for a big lock down on this country!

    SPLINTER Guest

    Viva Brasil!

    how do you translate Viva Brasil to portuguese? i always wondered why nobody fucks with us U.S. Citizens upon arival to a forein country.

    Rock On Brasil!
  12. iloveboxcars

    iloveboxcars 12oz Royalty

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  13. caL

    caL Senior Member

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    id love me a rio de janero hoe