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ADD

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Milton, Dec 8, 2003.

  1. Milton

    Milton Senior Member

    Joined: May 21, 2003 Messages: 2,253 Likes Received: 0
    My computer freaked out yesterday and I ended up connected from aim to some ADD support chatroom and heard this conversation:
    SomeonewithADD: I'm having a hard time with my husband, I am ADD and I take meds, my son is ADD and he takes meds but my husband will not admit that he has it, and so no meds.
    Someoneelse: I hate that, people should just admit they have it and get over it.
    SomeonewithADD: I know, but he doesn't even believe in it, thats the problem he wants to take our kid of meds too.
    Someoneelse: Well, ADD is a real disease, if someone got shot would you tell them they didn't have a "real problem"
    Me: (Cause I love being an asshole) How do you know your husband has add, are you a doctor.
    SomeonewithADD: No, but I can tell, he walks away mid conversation with me, and won't do what I tell him for more than 5 minutes before he quits.
    Me: I'm sorry maam but you just described every married man I know. Maybe you should see a doctor before you give anyone in your family a do it yourself labodomy... hey look pretty birds...


    What are your thoughts on the subject? Do you believe in it, do you have it, do you take ridalin for kicks?

    Me personally, I do not believe in it as a legitimate medical problem. When I was in second grade my TEACHER, not doctor, TEACHER tried to tell my mother that I had ADD and should get on ridalin. I never took ridalin and I turned out alright. Also I work with autistic kids and kids with behaviour problems a lot, and I used to take care of this kid with "ADD" all the time. He was like overly active, but no worse than I was when I was little, he was smart and damn funny too. So I take care of him for like 2 years and then one day I come to the house and he's sitting in the corner like just sitting there. So I talk to him and his sense of humor is gone, he doesn't want to play, he seems depressed. So I talk to his parents and find out that the teacher told them he was ADD so they got him on ridalin. I SAY FUCK THE BULLSHIT MAN, IF A KID ACTS OUT YOU TELL THE KID, QUIT ACTING OUT. But fuck it maybe we should just give out morphine with school lunches, that would keep the little shits quiet while they're being "taught"

    Milton (Hey look, that cloud looks like Martha Stewart)
     
  2. BOZACK

    BOZACK Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 999 Likes Received: 0
    i tink i have ADD
     
  3. mr.yuck

    mr.yuck Veteran Member

    Joined: May 12, 2000 Messages: 6,952 Likes Received: 6
    Yeah i have pretty much the same story. When I was in 2nd grade my teacher diagnosed me with ADD. They put me on ritalin and it made me a fuckin zombie. So I stopped takin it and while it did help me to focus on things infront of me, I'd just much rather be absent minded than walk around in a drug induced trance for the rest of my life. Not the good kind of drug induced trance either. I have pretty much worked my way through it. I really think that it is mind over matter. If you know you have ADD then you can take measures to circumvent it on your own with out medication.

    Now for those hyper active bastards...drug em the fuck up.
     
  4. BOZACK

    BOZACK Member

    Joined: Oct 19, 2003 Messages: 999 Likes Received: 0
    recreational ritalin right here
     
  5. heavyLox

    heavyLox Veteran Member

    Joined: Feb 2, 2002 Messages: 7,196 Likes Received: 17
    1. Teachers are not doctors therefor can not
    diagnose anyone, and can not conclusively say the student "has" ADD. Thye can simply look out
    for the tell tale signs and then recommend a
    Doctor do tests, parents willing of course.

    2. ADD is very real and is a medical condition, that
    many people suffer from to various degrees. Some
    people require some meds to help them slow there
    brain down to be able to maintain a useful level of
    focus on day to day tasks.

    3. for several years i taught many students, who
    among other things had ADD, there is a noticeable
    difference between an ADD student on perscribed
    MEDS and the same student NOT on their meds.

    4. not all people are equiped with the personal '
    awareness, and or the support structure to help
    them get over it with out drugs.The drugs are
    also always needing to be monitered and checked
    a growing young persons body is a work in flux
    and thus what worked for 6 months here mey not
    be effective after that. Over medicating as with
    all meds will work against you, as will under
    medicating. IT is very hard to get the perfect
    combination.
     
  6. Ethreadzny2

    Ethreadzny2 Veteran Member

    Joined: Oct 29, 2003 Messages: 6,255 Likes Received: 23
    god knows I have a terrible form of add, I dont even know how to button my shirt correctly. I have also been known to stop at stop signs waiting for them to turn green.
     
  7. rip

    rip Elite Member

    Joined: Nov 10, 2001 Messages: 2,667 Likes Received: 0
    people just use add as an excuse to be assholes and shit. fuck that, i wish someone would walk away in mid convorsation with me. il fucking drop kick their smart ass right in the head. lets see who's walking away now asshole.
     
  8. Milton

    Milton Senior Member

    Joined: May 21, 2003 Messages: 2,253 Likes Received: 0
    I can see what all of you are saying. I definitely agree with RIP that a lot of people use ADD as an excuse to get away with whatever they want. I know teachers cannot diagnose ADD and/or perscribe drugs, however my 2nd grade teacher actually, without my parents', consent had the school psychologist diagnose me without any actual testing mind you, and fill out a form so that a parents signature would get me all the ritalin I "needed." Needless to say my family wasn't very happy with that one. Anyway, it seems to me that ADD is another excuse for an overmedicated society to further push off its problems on the next wonder drug that comes out. Perhaps, as heavyLOX pointed out, there is an actual need for certain individuals to have medicine in order to function in life, however the extent to which our society blames every bad behavoir on a medical condition is disgusting to me. I'm actually reading a book now called "The Medicine of Deviance: From Badness to Ilness" Which basically talks about how all behavior problems are now "medical." I call bullshit though, some people are just bad, some people are overly active, some people think faster and more than other people. They used to call people that thought faster than everyone else geniuses, now they have a problem? Einstein could barely tie his shoes and failed elementary math several times.

    Fuck It, Give em drugs...
     
  9. iloveboxcars

    iloveboxcars 12oz Royalty

    Joined: Jul 29, 2002 Messages: 20,503 Likes Received: 438
    I have/had ADD as well. I took Mr. R. pill for awhile and then I realized I was getting addicted, so I stopped taking them. I did better in school but only in my 1st period.. and I never really wanted my first period to end. The only way that pill would have worked for me would have been if I took it several times over the course of each day, and there is no way I would zombify myself like that. I worked my way through the ADD.. I still have random "outbursts" (it's the only word I could think of) where I will be listening to someone and then I will think of something else and just turn around and do the other thing, but it doesn't happen often.
     
  10. CLAYTONCROWN

    CLAYTONCROWN Member

    Joined: Dec 3, 2003 Messages: 506 Likes Received: 1
    I dont think taking drugs for that shit is the right way to go. Infact, im hungry. And i think i see something outside.
     
  11. iloveboxcars

    iloveboxcars 12oz Royalty

    Joined: Jul 29, 2002 Messages: 20,503 Likes Received: 438
    I was going to make a thread about adhd called subtract, but then I noticed my feet were cold and started thinking about cameras.
     
  12. bigpoppa.k

    bigpoppa.k Elite Member

    Joined: May 2, 2001 Messages: 3,150 Likes Received: 17
    yeah that book was good, but when was the last time you washed the front of your television. i need to buy lined paper.
     
  13. heavyLox

    heavyLox Veteran Member

    Joined: Feb 2, 2002 Messages: 7,196 Likes Received: 17

    this is exactly why people think ADD is a cop out, cause your avarage person wants some how to excuse there idiotic tendancies ( no offense E I'm Dumb too).

    Ritalin in the right does should not make you sluggish, ever. Lithium, now that brings you down.
    As i said popper dosages are not that easy to determine and generally take a lot of close observation by parents, teachers and doctors.
    Just like meds to control Epilepsy, and heart problems, Diabetes, etc. all of these methods of "maintenance" are works in progress and generally have to be adjusted over time.
     
  14. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 22,906 Likes Received: 113
    "Me: I'm sorry maam but you just described every married man I know. Maybe you should see a doctor before you give anyone in your family a do it yourself labodomy... hey look pretty birds... "




    you rule. people take way too much fucking medication these days. the whole world is turning into pill popping zombies. "hey lady, your kid doesn't have ADD, the little fucker just needs less video games and more fucking exercise"- the only reason this prescription isn't handed out to parents is because it doesn't make money
     
  15. johnny

    johnny Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Feb 15, 2003 Messages: 7,231 Likes Received: 16
    like whoa over here...

    when coffee's just not enough, turn the wheel over to amphetamines.
     
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