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Absolutely nothing to do with hip-hop

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by VANDALISTIKO, Feb 27, 2002.

  1. VANDALISTIKO

    VANDALISTIKO Junior Member

    Joined: Aug 22, 2001 Messages: 157 Likes Received: 0
    this has probably been posted before and if it has i dont care.....

    Graffiti is Graffiti, hip-hop as a culture wants graffiti to be a part of it so that the culture can have street credibility. When some emcee, breakdancer, or dj tells me that we are doing it for the culture that shit kills me, rhymin on a mic is nothing compared to bombin djying takes talent but it aint nothing that can get you 3 years in a federal correctional institute and tell me that last time and breakdancer fell off a bridge to keep the culture alive, fuck that. Hip hop is not the culture that graffiti belongs in, Graffiti in itself is the culture and our cultural music is the sound of a can spitting out paint, our food is the 7-11 slurpees, our art is the one we paint on a wall, our people are the whole world and our enemy is society. Hip hop is accepted by all levels of society, even i listen to hip hop, underground mind you which is the true hip hop but i wont ever say that im part of the hip hop culture just because i do graffiti, sorry for taking your time im just ranting.
     
  2. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    true.

    that's "falling off a bridge" is a good point.

    I dont think 'graffiti' is a culture. Sure there's a 'scene',
    but we're really just poeple writing on walls.
     
  3. EL MASKO

    EL MASKO Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 4,733 Likes Received: 0
    Dialing seven digits. Call up Bridget, her man's a midget. Plus she has friends. Yo I can dig it. Here is a "forty" swig it. You know it's fridged. I got them chilling in the cooler, break out the ruler.
     
  4. Both take talent and both can get you years if done properly:D
     
  5. tue skinny

    tue skinny Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2001 Messages: 4,781 Likes Received: 0
    um hey wheel bite dont take my flix and use them
     
  6. EL MASKO

    EL MASKO Elite Member

    Joined: Jan 30, 2001 Messages: 4,733 Likes Received: 0
    Sorry bro. A friend of mine just sent that to me on AIM. So I didn't know where he got it and I just started flippin out. :lol:
     
  7. dropone

    dropone Member

    Joined: Jun 19, 2000 Messages: 550 Likes Received: 0
    graffiti is for hoboes with or without homes!!!!!

    and what really pisses me off is when you meet "johnny hip hop" and somehow it comes up that you write he can somehow automatically get down with you even though he tells you what he writes and its like "shelltoeone"
     
  8. --zeSto--

    --zeSto-- Guest

    I WRITE 'SHELTOEONE' you bastard!

    I used to write BlingOner, but I changed it to get more credibility.
     
  9. tue skinny

    tue skinny Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2001 Messages: 4,781 Likes Received: 0
    its aight whatever. you can put it back up. i dont care .. dont listen to me im dumb
     
  10. tue skinny

    tue skinny Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2001 Messages: 4,781 Likes Received: 0
    no thats not your pik. its mine.i had it my own thread first. have a nice day
     
  11. tue skinny

    tue skinny Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 3, 2001 Messages: 4,781 Likes Received: 0
    oh ok . have a nice day
     
  12. L.RonHubbard

    L.RonHubbard Guest

    I dont know about all that Emceeing aint nothing compared to bombing. I think they deserve equal credit. THe scariest thing for me ever is public speaking or preformance, and thast what MCing is all about. I know I couldnt be a good emcee because i dont have the power to get up their and rock the crowd. An emcee who can turn the place out just by his stage presence and charisma is just as deserving of propers as someone like ayer or tie or any risky spot type character.
     
  13. KONFLIKT

    KONFLIKT Guest

    STUDY YO HISTORY

    PERHAPS GRAFF AND HIP-HOP ARE NOT RELATED THESE DAYS. BUT, WHEN IT FIRST STARTED OUT IT WAS ALL ONE MOVEMENT. IT ALL CAME OUT AT THE SAME TIME. THE RAP CAME OUT THE BREAKERS DANCED TO IT THE TABLIST SPUN TO IT, AND THE GRAFF WRITERS UASUALLY DID ONE OF THESE ELEMENTS. ITS NOT RELATED TO THE MUSIC BUT IT IS PART OF THE CULTURE. ITS LIKE HOW LSD WAS PART OF THE HIPPIE CULTURE. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WIT THE MUSIC OR THE FIGHTING OF THE POWER IT WAS JUST THERE AND EVERYBODY IN THAT HIPPIE CULTURE DID IT. THATS HOW GRAF IS... OR WAS, IT WAS JUST PART OF THE CULTURE. TODAY THOUGH... I THINK ITS ALL SEPRATE. YOU GOT BREAKERS WHO DONT REALLY TIE INTO MOST OF THE RAP MUSIC TODAY. MAD DJ'S ARE GOING TECHNO WHIT DOSNT FIT INTO HIP HOP, AND GRAFF IS JUST KINDA A INDEPENDENT ELEMENT. BUT WHEN IT STARTED IT WAS PART OF A CULTURE.

    THANKS FO READING, YOU WILL RECIEVE YOUR PRIZE IN 10-15 BUSINESS DAYS VIA PRIORITY MAIL.
    KON-
     
  14. astrotrain

    astrotrain Banned

    Joined: Feb 27, 2002 Messages: 25 Likes Received: 0
  15. ?!?!

    ?!?! Guest

    being that im 19 i cant say where graff came from or how it came from hiphop, i only know what im told. no first hand experience but i will say...
    if it wasnt for hiphop all your suburban white boys wouldnt be doing shit..
    and since half the kids on the hit board are suburban white boys...
    now i know not all but most. you say yea i dont listen to hiphop blah blah im a rocker. well name punk rock groups that influenced you to write graffiti...i cant think of any. so the commerical success of graffiti through hiphop brought it to the suburbs, now that doesnt mean you had to buy an Ice T record to pick up graffiti, it was there and you could see it though. just like now, you may not drink sprite but youll still see the graffiti on their ads, and if you didnt previously know what it was you might go, yo that word looks dope i wanna make my name like that, yet you dont drink sprite...so while it came from the sprite add that doesnt mean you have to be a sprite drinker.
    in relation my point is, just becuase you dont like hiphop doesnt mean hiphop didnt influence you to write. now i know every one of you will go blah blah my friends older brother wrote something something and wasnt hiphop blah blah but the fact is you white boy in wyoming...you wouldnt be writing most likely if it wasnt for the commericalization of hiphop. it would be a grimey ghetto thing to do.
    i got into graff through other elements of hiphop, i then found out that its not centrally based aroud hiphop though becuase yes in fact many many writers claim no part in hiphop, i still know where it came from in my perspective though.
    im right. dont argue whitey were both the same. sucka
     
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