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_____________________SOLDIER BLASTS COP DEAD IN LA

Discussion in 'News' started by BROWNer, Jan 11, 2005.

  1. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

    Cop, Gunman Dead

    CERES — It started as a seemingly simple and somewhat routine call Sunday night: a man was acting strangely at a liquor store.

    Moments later, a burst of gunfire echoed through the normally quiet neighborhood. One Ceres police officer lay dying, another was critically wounded, and law enforcement was storming the scene by land and air.

    Helicopters hovered above as police ordered people to go inside, lock their doors and turn off the lights.

    Three hours later, another gun battle erupted, this one ending in the death of a 19-year-old Marine from Modesto,suspected of shooting the two officers.

    Altogether, police and neighbors said Monday, dozens of bullets flew, shattering windows and piercing vehicles as residents hunkered down in terror.

    “Brap-brap-brap-brap-brap,” said Anthony John Phillips, a 15-year-old boy who lives a block away, trying to describe the rapid gunfire. “I was scared. It was crazy.”

    In the end:

    Ceres police Sgt. Howard Stevenson, 39, was dead.
    Andres Raya, who police say seemed determined to die rather than return to Iraq, was dead.
    Ceres police officer Sam Ryno, 50, was hospitalized with multiple gunshot wounds. He was in critical condition Monday, and is expected to recover.
    Monday, detectives from sev-eral law enforcement agencies — from the Ceres police to the FBI — sifted through events leading to Sunday’s carnage.

    Officers were still struggling to figure out what drove Raya to fire on officers.

    “It was premeditated, planned, an ambush,” Ceres Police Chief Art de Werk said. “It was a suicide by cop.”

    De Werk said investigators are not ruling out other motives or accomplices, but believe that Raya, a Marine who had served seven months in Iraq, was concerned about the possibility of going back into combat.

    Raya returned to the United States in September and recently visited his family in Modesto.

    Julia Cortez Raya said Monday that her son served in Fallujah: “He came back different.”

    Raya told family members he did not want to return to Iraq. But his father said the family believed by the end of his holiday visit, Raya had decided to make the best of the 2½ years he had left in the Marines.

    He rejoined his unit at Camp Pendleton on Jan. 2. Sheriff’s Lt. Bill Heyne said Raya was last seen at Camp Pendleton Saturday.

    He reportedly told fellow soldiers he was going to get a quick bite to eat. Instead, he showed up in Ceres 24 hours later, armed with an SKS assault rifle. The rifle is a Chinese version of the weapon that Raya was trained to use in the Marines, Heyne said.

    Video cameras catch carnage

    The first moments of the three-hour drama were caught by video cameras at George’s Liquors, 2125 Caswell Ave., near Central Avenue.

    The tape shows Raya firing one round into the pavement of the store’s parking lot. He then walks into the store.

    According to police, Raya told the clerk that he had just been shot at and asked the clerk to call 911, Heyne said.

    Steven Marchant, working at the store Sunday night, said he was standing in front of the store when he saw Raya walking toward him from across the street about 8 p.m. Raya was wearing a poncho and yelling “how much he hated the world,” Marchant said.

    Marchant recognized Raya as a friend of the owner’s brother and a regular customer.

    Marchant went into the store when Raya stopped at the front door and asked him to call police.

    Another employee tried to calm Raya down. Then the employee realized Raya had a gun under the poncho. After Raya walked out, the employees locked the door and called police.

    Raya waited outside, a surveillance videotape shows.

    About 8:07 p.m., about two minutes after the call, Ryno and a police trainee pulled up into the parking lot of Jiro Tires Plus, a neighboring business that faces Central Avenue. The trainee’s name was not released.

    As the two officers peered around the corner of a building to locate Raya, a third officer pulled into the same parking lot. Raya opened fire on all three, hitting Ryno — who had stepped out from behind the building — several times in the leg and once in the lower back.

    Raya then rushed the trainee, firing several times but missing. The trainee and the third officer, whose name was not released, shot back.

    Raya ducked around the corner of George’s. After a few seconds, he saw Stevenson pull up in front of the liquor store. Raya opened fire again, shooting through the window of a white car in the parking lot and hitting Stevenson.

    He then ran out of view of the camera.

    Stevenson, lying injured on the ground, was shot twice in the back of the head, Heyne said.

    Witnesses: Raya appeared calm

    “I was walking in my back yard to use my spa when I heard a horrible grinding noise,” said Norm Travis, whose home is on Glenwood Drive, around the corner from George’s.

    “Then an alarm went off and there was a bunch of yelling and screaming and then another round of shots,” he said.

    “We knew that it was an automatic weapon,” said his wife, Karen Travis.

    Witnesses told police that after shooting the officers, Raya calmly walked east on Caswell and disappeared, either into a house or a back yard.

    Within minutes, officers from the Ceres, Modesto, Turlock and Newman police departments, as well as the Stanislaus and Merced sheriff’s offices and the California Highway Patrol, responded.

    Nearly one square mile of the city’s streets were closed as a CHP helicopter hovered and police officers and SWAT teams took positions around the neighborhood.

    Police officers began shooting out street lights to diminish Raya’s vision, officers said.

    Residents were told to lock their doors and turn off their lights, said Kim Rose, 25, who lives about one block from the liquor store. She had been in the store about 20 minutes before the shooting.

    “We heard a lot of gunfire, and I mean a lot of gunfire,” Rose said. “Then a few minutes later, police were walking up and down the street with guns drawn, yelling for everyone to go back in their houses.”

    George Newton, who lives two blocks from the store on Beachwood Drive, said his 42-year-old daughter was visiting him when the neighborhood was locked down. She wasn’t allowed to leave the home.

    “She slept on my couch last night,” Newton said. “She was stuck here until 4:30 a.m.”

    Some neighbors evacuated

    Across the street, the Garcia family was evacuated. Their home was believed to be directly behind the home in which Raya was hiding. Members of a SWAT team took over the Garcia’s house, Kandy Garcia said, positioning themselves in her back yard and on her neighbor’s bal-cony.

    “They were nice and professional but very firm and matter-of-fact,” Garcia said. “They said we had to leave now.”

    She grabbed her four children and stayed the night at her mother’s house.

    The CHP helicopter beamed its light into the yards of homes on the south side of Beachwood and north side of Caswell.

    After about two hours, officers began a slow house-to-house search, according to a press release issued Monday.

    “Our poor neighbors across the street were evacuated, so they locked their doors,” Norm Travis said. “Then about an hour later, the SWAT team broke down their front door to search for the suspect.”

    About 11:08 p.m., Raya jumped over a backyard fence from a home on Caswell and ended up in an alley between Glenwood and Myrtlewood drives.

    Police say he fired at four officers who were positioned at the Glenwood end of the alley, about 100 yards away. The officers fired back and struck him multiple times.

    He dropped his rifle but started running toward them. He motioned as if he was going for a second weapon, officers said, so they continued to fire.

    He fell to the ground and died at the scene.

    His body was still in the alley Monday afternoon as investigators worked the scene.

    Police said that an exact number of rounds fired by Raya and police had not been determined Monday evening, but it was probably more than 60.

    Police also released the liquor store video tape. De Werk said he wanted the public to see the tape so they could understand not only what happened but “what’s really going on in the world.”

    video and article links here: http://modbee.com/local/story/9750300p-10612430c.html

    and this cheery article:

    By Anthony Lappé, GNN
    A homeless Iraq vet asks for respect
    Pcf. Herold Noel, 25, wasn’t expecting a parade. But when he and his fellow soldiers from the Army’s Expeditionary Unit 37 arrived home from Iraq in Hinesville, Ga. they got what one might call less than a hero’s welcome. Waiting for them as they deplaned were local police officers. In their hands were lists of names of soldiers with outstanding warrants, mostly for traffic and parking tickets left unpaid while off fighting the war.

    “I had a couple [of unpaid tickets],” Noel recalls. “I told my family to meet me in the parking lot and I went out the side door.”

    According to Noel, several soldiers were hauled away in cuffs as their families looked on.

    The scene was an ominous sign of things to come.

    Welcome back

    Noel, who enlisted in the Army at 19, was part of the so-called “tip of the spear” during the March 2003 U.S. invasion. His job was one of the most perilous: hauling tank fuel on the frontlines all the way to Baghdad, and then in Fallujah, where the heavy fighting never stopped. His rig was so combustible that in the heat of battle his own tanks would turn and run when they saw him coming.

    Noel, who received several medals for his actions, left Hinesville shortly after his less-than-heartwarming homecoming, heading back to his native New York City. The reception there was even more bleak. When he tried to apply for public housing, he was told there was a freeze on new applications. When he went to the city’s Emergency Assistance Unit, he was told there nothing they could do for him either.

    He is now homeless, traversing the city with his two-year old son, Anthony, caught in a so-far fruitless search for housing. For the last six months, he has been lost in a Kafka-esque maze of public and private service agencies, living out of his car, a 1994 Jeep. He’s moved from friends’ and family members’ couches trying to keep his son off the street. He sent his two other children, twins aged six, to Florida to stay with their grandmother.

    “We’re not asking for a lot, just a place to lay our heads,” he said. “I’m a solider. I risked my life for this country. I have given a lot to this country. I honor this country. For me to come back home and to have nothing to grasp onto – to be put out of the street – is wrong.”

    In addition, Noel is suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD.

    He witnessed horrific scenes in Iraq, including loss of limbs among his own men, and scores of civilian deaths. While taking fire, he says he was forced to run over several Iraqis with his truck.

    “I have nightmares, I get angry a lot,” he said.

    He sees a psychiatrist at a local VA Hospital and has been prescribed three drugs, including trazodone, an antidepressant, and risperidone, an anti-psychotic.

    He has yet to receive any disability checks, which can take more than a year to process.

    According to Ricky Singh, of the Brooklyn-based Black Veterans for Social Justice, Noel’s story isn’t unique. Singh has seen at least 100 Iraq war veterans without housing come through his non-profit community service organization.

    “The reasons for this vary,” Singh told GNN. “Some of the reasons are the same kind of economic conditions that pushed them to military in the first place. If you come from a poor family, and you’re gone for three or four years, your room may be gone. The time away erodes and breaks down the support system. Some of them are coming back with mental health problems. It’s a complex set of factors.”

    Singh says his organization cannot accommodate the needs of all the Iraq veterans seeking housing and mental health assistance – and it’s only going to get worse. His group already provides services for 5,000 veterans annually, mostly from the Vietnam era.

    “I’m not sure the VA can address the problem, based on the numbers we know,” Singh said. “One-third of the homeless population [in the U.S.] are veterans. There are at 500,000 homeless vets, the VA only reaches 20% of them. That population is going to increase drastically with the soldiers coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan. The VA’s budget cannot meet this need.”

    Bling, bling

    One of the most difficult aspects to Noel’s return has been to come home to a society that appears largely oblivious to the sacrifice its warriors are making on its behalf.

    He used to be heavily into hop-hip.

    “I used to buy all the CD’s. Now I come back you have all these rappers, ‘I got your house on my wrist, I got this car on my feet, I got one mill on my neck,’” he says.

    “You got these reality shows where they’re throwing money at people. I’m fighting so the media can keep doing what they’re doing, so people don’t come in there and blow up people. I remember watching my friends die and lose their limbs, hoping that I could come home to watch those videos. Now I don’t want to see that shit. What they doing for me? I’m making them rich. I’m putting gas in their rides.”

    “I know veterans going through what I did, they going through a struggle. These vets they’re not asking for a lot, pennies – so they can survive.”

    Despite everything, Noel says he would enlist again.

    “I’m always going to be a soldier. I’m going to speak so my country can be a better country. I’m not bashing the military – but if you want people to protect this country, you have to protect them.”
  2. heavyLox

    heavyLox Veteran Member

    Joined: Feb 2, 2002 Messages: 7,196 Likes Received: 17
    Shit just gets better and better.
  3. SteveAustin

    SteveAustin Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 12, 2002 Messages: 7,042 Likes Received: 2
    yeah, its pretty absurd what the government does with the soldiers after they're done with them.
  4. <KEY3>

    <KEY3> Veteran Member

    Joined: Mar 24, 2004 Messages: 6,878 Likes Received: 2
    I watched a doc last night on History about a military prison for nam vets.
    This one guy just said like it was. "We'd just do anything, collect ears, skulls, anything.
    It was easier to just kill them than to deal with wounded civilians."

    This was a guy who had never fired a gun before the gov't gave him one.
  5. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    we'll see more of this most assuredly
  6. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

  7. !@#$%

    [email protected]#$% Moderator Crew

    Joined: Oct 1, 2002 Messages: 18,517 Likes Received: 623
    the price of urban warfare...

    the military sure has their hands full with all these guys offing themselves, their wives, their buddies, and now the police.
  8. wiseguy

    wiseguy Elite Member

    Joined: Mar 1, 2002 Messages: 2,543 Likes Received: 1
    ah, so this is what the govt. meant when they said "support the troops"...
  9. BROWNer

    BROWNer Guest

  10. garth vader

    garth vader Member

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  11. villain

    villain Veteran Member

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    part of me is saying "run away..." and another part of me is saying "go back...."
  12. garth vader

    garth vader Member

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    crazy, now he's not a soldier that was under distress, but he's actually a gang-member that was high on coke and listening to gangsta rap. it was just a gang thing.