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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Pistol, Oct 24, 2002.

  1. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    2 Men Arrested in Sniper Investigation

    Two Men Arrested in Sniper Case
    10 minutes ago
    By ALLEN BREED, Associated Press Writer

    FREDERICK, Md. (AP) - Two men wanted for questioning in the wave of deadly sniper attacks in the Washington area were arrested early Thursday after they were found sleeping in their car at a rest stop off a Maryland interstate, authorities said.

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    Members of the sniper task force arrested the men without incident at 3:19 a.m. off I-70 in Frederick County, Md., said Larry Scott, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

    The men were arrested in a car that matched a description police gave at a midnight press briefing, said Maj. Greg Shipley, a spokesman for the Maryland State Police.

    "I don't know what their reaction was," Shipley said. "It wasn't an aggressive one. They were taken into custody without incident."

    Shipley said the men were being transported to Montgomery County, where the investigation is based.

    A motorist and an attendant at the rest stop called police at 1 a.m. after they spotted the men sleeping inside one of the cars sought in the sniper investigation.

    Police responded and took the men into custody. Their car was a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice with New Jersey plates NDA-21Z.

    The arrests came amid a flurry of activity in the investigation of the sniper attacks that have killed 10 people and wounded three others since Oct. 2.

    Hours earlier, police issued an arrest warrant for John Allen Muhammad and an alert for the Caprice and another vehicle. Muhammad was wanted for questioning in the slayings and was being sought on a federal weapons charge, said Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who is leading the investigation.

    Muhammad was considered "armed and dangerous," Moose said.

    But he cautioned that it shouldn't be assumed Muhammad, 42, is involved in any of the shootings that have stricken the Washington area since Oct. 2.

    Muhammad was said to be traveling with a juvenile, identified by a law enforcement source as 17-year-old Lee Malvo. The relationship between Muhammad, who also goes by the name John Allen Williams, and the teen was not clear.

    A federal law enforcement official said the two men taken into custody were two people that police were seeking in the investigation, but the source did not give their names.

    Several federal sources told the Seattle Times that Muhammad and Malvo may have been motivated by anti-American sentiments in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. Both were known to speak sympathetically about the men who hijacked jetliners over Washington, New York and Pennsylvania, the sources said.

    But neither man was believed to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, sources said.

    The arrests came hours after authorities opened two new avenues in the investigation: FBI (news - web sites) agents spent hours at a Tacoma, Wash., rental home, eventually carting away a tree stump from the yard and other potential evidence in a U-Haul truck.

    And in Montgomery, Ala., Mayor Bobby Bright said federal authorities were investigating whether a fatal shooting there last month was linked to the sniper.

    Bright said a caller to the sniper investigation tip line apparently claimed responsibility for the sniper shootings and the Montgomery shooting Sept. 21. One woman was killed and another wounded.

    A law enforcement source told The (Baltimore) Sun that police found a piece of paper at the scene of the Montgomery shooting that bore Malvo's fingerprints. Police then traced Malvo to the Tacoma home, where he had been living with Williams, the paper said.

    Late Wednesday night, Moose held a media briefing here he issued his latest cryptic message to the killer.

    "You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You've asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you," Moose said.

    He also expressed frustration at the failure to make contact despite the sniper's repeated attempts through "notes, indirect messages and calls to other jurisdictions." He asked the sniper to call.

    Several newspapers said Williams was formerly stationed at Fort Lewis, 15 miles from Tacoma. A Fort Lewis spokesman did not return a call for comment on whether Muhammad was stationed on the base.

    Felix Strozier, who ran a karate school with Williams in 1997 and 1998, said Williams told him he had been in the Army but did not say where.

    Pfc. Chris Waters, a Fort Lewis soldier who lives across the street from the Tacoma home, said he called police after hearing gunshots in the neighborhood nearly every day in January.

    "It sounded like a high-powered rifle such as an M-16," he said. "Never more than three shots at a time. Pow. Pow. Pow."

    Dean Resop, who lives a block away, said quite a few tenants had been in and out of the home.

    "Makes you want to watch your neighbors closer," said Resop, who has lived in the area seven years.

    FBI agents also visited Bellingham High School, 90 miles north of Seattle, on Wednesday. Mayor Mark Asmundson told the Bellingham Herald the agents were apparently seeking information on a male teenager who once attended the school and an older man. He said both left the area about nine months ago.
  2. effyoo

    effyoo Elite Member

    Joined: Sep 2, 2002 Messages: 4,703 Likes Received: 0
    I saw those two on CNN. Damn, that was a fast capture.

    PAYROLL Guest

    It's good they were caught. Maybe now folks will stop making a "sniper" thread every ten fucking seconds.
  4. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 22,906 Likes Received: 113
    Re: 2 Men Arrested in Sniper Investigation

    ok, what do you reckon? is it them? odds starting at 10-1
  5. Pistol

    Pistol Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Jul 12, 2001 Messages: 19,363 Likes Received: 299
    Re: Re: 2 Men Arrested in Sniper Investigation

    idunno what the over/under?
  6. effyoo

    effyoo Elite Member

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    CNN was saying that they were not suspects, one guy had violated some sort of gun law.
  7. fr8oholic

    fr8oholic Veteran Member

    Joined: Apr 23, 2000 Messages: 9,256 Likes Received: 2
    Authorities in the U.S. state of Maryland say two men have been arrested in connection with a nationwide manhunt for a serial sniper who has killed 10 people over the past three weeks. The arrests came before dawn Thursday, just hours after police put out an alert for two people in connection with the case.

    It was just a few hours after authorities issued an arrest warrant in the sniper case that police say a motorist along an interstate highway in Frederick, Maryland, north of Washington, spotted a car at a rest stop matching a police description of a wanted vehicle and called authorities who quickly moved in to make these arrests.

    Police sources say taken into custody was John Allen Muhammad, 42, a former army soldier who authorities say is wanted on a federal weapons charge and who they say is wanted for questioning about the sniper case. It's believed that his stepson, also wanted for questioning, has been arrested as well. At this point though, it is not clear whether authorities simply want to question them about the sniper case or believe one may be the actual sniper who has been killing people seemingly at random across the Washington area for the past three weeks.

    These arrests are the first in a case which in recent days has left law enforcement frustrated and police using the media to send cryptic messages to the sniper, after the sniper first began leaving notes for police, including one in which the killer threatened to target children if certain demands were not met.
  8. sneak

    sneak Guest

    at last...
  9. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 22,906 Likes Received: 113
    dude, like pshah. this is, like already covered by pistola in another thread dude. pshayahayah
  10. footsoldier

    footsoldier Senior Member

    Joined: May 23, 2000 Messages: 1,885 Likes Received: 2
    no big shoot out?? what?? everyone said this was gonna end in a shootout. i wouldnt have minded if it didnt, but all these fucks got my expectations all high.

    PAYROLL Guest

    I share the same sentiments; however, I wouldn't have put it so, well...valley girlish.
  12. beardo

    beardo Guest

    i dont think its them
    one of the requests the sniper had of moose was to broadcast on tv that the sniper had been caught. i think its a wild goose chase and he sent them to the wrong guy.
  13. Abracadabra

    Abracadabra Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Dec 28, 2001 Messages: 22,906 Likes Received: 113
    kinda wierd huh. maybe their "shoot first, ask questions later" policy has gone out the window for a more, shall we say, productive form of law enforcement.
  14. Poop Man Bob

    Poop Man Bob Dirty Dozen Crew

    Joined: Nov 16, 2000 Messages: 10,259 Likes Received: 18
    Two arrested and considered suspects.



    MIDDLETOWN, Maryland (CNN) -- Members of the sniper task force arrested an ex-soldier and his stepson early Thursday at a freeway rest stop. Sources told CNN the two were considered suspects in the shootings that have killed 10 and wounded three in the Washington area.

    Sources identified the two as John Allen Muhammad, 42 -- a Gulf War veteran named in a federal arrest warrant for firearms violations who was being sought as a material witness in the sniper case -- and his 17-year-old stepson John Lee Malvo, a Jamaican citizen.

    They were taken to an undisclosed location in Montgomery County and questioned. The string of deadly shootings began in the county three weeks ago, and the most recent victim linked to the sniper was killed there Tuesday. (Trail of the sniper)

    A weapon has not been recovered, but witnesses said police removed a couple of duffel bags from the car. Police have obtained a warrant to search the car more thoroughly.

    Muhammad and Malvo were sleeping in a blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice, which a motorist and attendant recognized as matching the description of a vehicle authorities were looking for -- a blue or burgundy 1990 Chevrolet Caprice with New Jersey license plate NDA 21Z.

    The sighting was reported to police, who relayed the tip to the sniper task force, which dispatched officers to the scene some 50 miles northwest of Washington.

    The rest area is along a seven-mile stretch of Interstate 70 near Myersville, Maryland, that had been shut down in a dragnet launched just a few hours earlier by Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, the head of the sniper task force.

    After the October 3 shooting of Pascal Charlot, 72, in Washington, D.C., law enforcement officials searched for a burgundy Chevrolet Caprice. One such car was later found burned out in the D.C. area, but it was never determined whether it had anything to do with the fatal shooting.

    Other developments
    •President Bush was told Thursday morning that law enforcement officials are confident the arrests of Muhammad and Malvo represent a significant breakthrough, a senior administration official said. "It is an ongoing situation, but he was told they are optimistic they have cracked this," the official said.

    •The Baltimore Sun reported Wednesday that authorities got a break in the case from a recent phone call believed to be from the sniper, who said that investigators should "take him seriously" and "check with the people in Montgomery," or words to that effect. The newspaper said police then checked recent shootings in Montgomery, Alabama, and found a double shooting outside a liquor store on September 21 that involved .223 caliber ammunition -- the same type used by the sniper.

    •Police found a piece of paper bearing Malvo's fingerprint at the scene of the Montgomery shooting, the Sun reported. Malvo, authorities learned, lived with Muhammad. Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright told CNN that sniper task force investigators "came to us two days ago ... (and) we gave them the evidence we collected in the case." Bright said the fingerprint was among that evidence, but investigators "have not officially authenticated it."

    •Authorities searched a duplex in Tacoma, Washington on Wednesday and left with a tree trunk apparently used for target practice. Sources said Muhammad once served at Fort Lewis, not far from the duplex.

    •North of Tacoma near the Canadian border, the mayor of Bellingham, Washington said the FBI and local police had searched Bellingham High School, where Malvo reportedly attended school last year.

    •Military officials told CNN Muhammad was not trained as a sniper and was not in the Special Forces, but had expertise in combat support missions.

    •Federal authorities searched a paramilitary training camp in Marion, Alabama, on Wednesday, local officials said. The FBI would not say where the search was conducted, but did say the search was related to the sniper case. Police in Marion said the property searched was a training camp -- "Ground Zero USA" -- that specializes in urban warfare, martial arts and SWAT tactics. Police did not elaborate on what, if anything, was taken from the property.

    •At a midnight news conference Wednesday, Moose delivered another message to the sniper, urging him to contact police.

    "Our inability to talk has been a concern for us as it has been for you," Moose said. "You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you.

    "However, we want you to know how difficult it has been to understand what you want because you have chosen to use only notes, indirect messages, and calls to other jurisdictions."

    •Law enforcement sources said a note was found near the scene of Tuesday's fatal shooting of a bus driver in Silver Spring, Maryland. Sources said the note is similar to the letter found after a weekend shooting in Virginia that has been linked to the sniper.

    •Sources told CNN the Virginia letter revealed a frustrated individual -- believed to be the sniper -- critical of law enforcement's efforts in the investigation. The writer complained that he tried numerous times to call authorities, only to have officials hang up on him.
  15. mikro137

    mikro137 Guest

    honestly , they are ony being questioned as witnesses right now. watch this be one of those we fucked up things.