a friend of mine at work has what you cal the "ipod killer" and it is the most god awful, uncomfortable thing, hands down, very bulky and retarded...
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Oh yeah, I also forgot to mention if you get a real MP3 player you dont have to worry about apples stupid ass itunes and just download all your music for free. FUCK APPLE.
In case you didnt see or read about this elsewhere... http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
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and itunes is the the program to put them on the ipod, all the music i have, i got for free and put on my ipod,,,,,,did apple piss you off little boy?